Joel Osteen Cannot Say Whether Atheists or If Anyone is Going to Hell

In this video, Joel Osteen is given many opportunities to say that Jesus is the only Way to heaven as is taught by orthodox, historic Christianity:

How are a few verses that indicate that Jesus is the only Way:

(Acts 4:12)  "Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved."
(John 8:24)  "Therefore I said to you that you will die in your sins; for if you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins."
(1 Cor 3:11)  For no other foundation can anyone lay than that which is laid, which is Jesus Christ.
(1 Tim 2:5)  For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus,
(John 14:6)  Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me."

There are more, of course. The bible is clear. Jesus is the only Way to the Father (heaven). All others will, sadly, be in hell. We must pray for as many that have ears to hear will hear.

The Sliding Scale of Morality and Law

1 Corinthians 10:12 For we dare not class ourselves or compare ourselves with those who commend themselves. But they, measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.

If our laws and our morals as a society are not grounded in something that does not change, then what we believe to be acceptable at one time will certainly change over time. Anyone can see this as they reflect on those activities that were prohibited years ago. It is the same concept when one hears that we should be led by the “first principles” when referring to the constitution of the United States. The founders of this country believed that if we strayed too far from these first principles, the state of the union would be in jeopardy. Equally, our Creator has dictated that if we stray from His First Principles, we too, as as society and individually, are in jeopardy.

Below is a listing of those state statutes that are repealed or were put into law years ago and are being completely ignored today:

Sunday Liquor Sales (MCL 436.2114 Selling, giving away, furnishing, or buying alcoholic liquor or spirits on Sunday): Just repealed for the want of more money. See my post on my other site here. It used to be restricted on Sunday morning from 2:00am to 12:00 noon.

Abortion: MCL 750.14 Administering drugs, etc., with intent to procure miscarriage—Any person who shall wilfully administer to any pregnant woman any medicine, drug, substance or thing whatever, or shall employ any instrument or other means whatever, with intent thereby to procure the miscarriage of any such woman, unless the same shall have been necessary to preserve the life of such woman, shall be guilty of a felony, and in case the death of such pregnant woman be thereby produced, the offense shall be deemed manslaughter.MCL 750.90g(b) That a live infant partially outside his or her mother is neither a fetus nor potential life, but is a person.

Adultery: MCL 750.30 Punishment—Any person who shall commit adultery shall be guilty of a felony; and when the crime is committed between a married woman and a man who is unmarried, the man shall be guilty of adultery, and liable to the same punishment.

Advertising relating to sexual diseases: MCL 750.34 A person who advertises ... the treating or curing of venereal diseases, the restoration of “lost manhood” or “lost vitality or vigor”, or advertises in any manner that he or she is a specialist in diseases of the sexual organs, or diseases caused by sexual vice or masturbation, or in any diseases of like cause, or shall advertise in any manner any medicine, drug, compound, appliance, or any means whatever whereby sexual diseases of men or women may be cured or relieved, or miscarriage or abortion produced, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $1,000.00.

Blasphemy: MCL 750.102 Any person who shall wilfully blaspheme the holy name of God, by cursing or contumeliously reproaching God, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

Cursing and Swearing: MCL 750.103 Any person who has arrived at the age of discretion, who shall profanely curse or damn or swear by the name of God, Jesus Christ or the Holy Ghost, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. No such prosecution shall be sustained unless it shall be commenced within 5 days after the commission of such offense.

Homosexuality/Sodomy: MCL 750.158 Any person who shall commit the abominable and detestable crime against nature either with mankind or with any animal shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison not more than 15 years, or if such person was at the time of the said offense a sexually delinquent person, may be punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for an indeterminate term, the minimum of which shall be 1 day and the maximum of which shall be life. MCL 750.159 In any prosecution for sodomy, it shall not be necessary to prove emission, and any sexual penetration, however slight, shall be deemed sufficient to complete the crime specified in the next preceding section.

Desertion of Spouse: MCL 750.161 (1) A person who deserts and abandons his or her spouse or deserts and abandons his or her children under 17 years of age, without providing necessary and proper shelter, food, care, and clothing for them, and a person who being of sufficient ability fails, neglects, or refuses to provide necessary and proper shelter, food, care, and clothing for his or her spouse or his or her children under 17 years of age, is guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in a state correctional facility for not less than 1 year and not more than 3 years, or by imprisonment in the county jail for not less than 3 months and not more than 1 year.

Fortune Telling (repealed 1993): MCL 750.267-270 Repealed. 1993, Act 282, Eff. Apr. 1, 1994.
267 Fortune telling by cards, etc., for gain - Any person who shall pretend for money or gain, to predict future events by cards, tokens, trances, the inspection of the hands or the conformation of the skull of any person, mind reading so-called, or by consulting the movements of the heavenly bodies, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

Gambling: MCL 750.301 Any person or his or her agent or employee who, directly or indirectly, takes, receives, or accepts from any person any money or valuable thing with the agreement, understanding or allegation that any money or valuable thing will be paid or delivered to any person where the payment or delivery is alleged to be or will be contingent upon the result of any race, contest, or game or upon the happening of any event not known by the parties to be certain, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year or a fine of not more than $1,000.00.

Incest (repealed 1974 and 1999): MCL 750.333 Any person who is within the degree of consanguinity with another within which marriages are prohibited or declared by law to be incestuous and void...and shall marry such other person, or shall commit adultery or fornication with such other person, shall be guilt of a felony.

Lewd and lascivious cohabitation and gross lewdness: MCL 750.335 Any man or woman, not being married to each other, who lewdly and lasciviously associates and cohabits together, and any man or woman, married or unmarried, who is guilty of open and gross lewdness and lascivious behavior, is guilty of a misdemeanor punishable by imprisonment for not more than 1 year, or a fine of not more than $1,000.00. No prosecution shall be commenced under this section after 1 year from the time of committing the offense.

Women and children; improper language in presence: MCL 750.337 Any person who shall use any indecent, immoral, obscene, vulgar or insulting language in the presence or hearing of any woman or child shall be guilty of a misdemeanor.

Gross indecency; between male persons: MCL 750.338 Any male person who, in public or in private, commits or is a party to the commission of or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of any act of gross indecency with another male person shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 5 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,500.00, or if such person was at the time of the said offense a sexually delinquent person, may be punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for an indeterminate term, the minimum of which shall be 1 day and the maximum of which shall be life.

Gross indecency; female persons: MCL 750.338a Any female person who, in public or in private, commits or is a party to the commission of, or any person who procures or attempts to procure the commission by any female person of any act of gross indecency with another female person shall be guilty of a felony, punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 5 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,500.00, or if such person was at the time of the said offense a sexually delinquent person, may be punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for an indeterminate term, the minimum of which shall be 1 day and the maximum of which shall be life.

Gross indecency; between male and female persons: MCL 750.338b Any male person who, in public or in private, commits or is a party to the commission of any act of gross indecency with a female person shall be guilty of a felony, punishable as provided in this section. Any female person who, in public or in private, commits or is a party to the commission of any act of gross indecency with a male person shall be guilty of a felony punishable as provided in this section. Any person who procures or attempts to procure the commission of any act of gross indecency by and between any male person and any female person shall be guilty of a felony punishable as provided in this section. Any person convicted of a felony as provided in this section shall be punished by imprisonment in the state prison for not more than 5 years, or by a fine of not more than $2,500.00, or if such person was at the time of the said offense a sexually delinquent person, may be punishable by imprisonment in the state prison for an indeterminate term, the minimum of which shall be 1 day and the maximum of which shall be life.

Obscene, sadistic, or masochistic literature; recording or image, penalty for sale, transmutation, or possession: MCL 750.343a Repealed. 1957, Act 265, Imd. Eff. June 13, 1957.
Any person who knowingly either sells, lends, gives away, distributes, shows or transmutes or offers either to sell, lend, give away, distribute, show or transmute, or advertise in any manner, or who otherwise knowingly offers for either loan, gift, sale or distribution, any obscene, lewd, lascivious, filthy or indecent, sadistic or masochistic book magazine, pamphlet, newspaper, story paper, writing, paper, phonograph record, picture, drawing, photograph, motion picture film, figure, image, wire or tape recording or any written,printed or recorded matter of an indecent character which may or may not require mechanical or other means to be transmuted into auditory, visual or sensory representations of such character, shall be guilty of a misdemeanor, and upon conviction shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail for not more than 1 year or by a fine of not more than $1,000, or by both such fine and imprisonment. MCL 750.343b The test to be applied in cases under section 343a of this act shall not be whether sexual desires or sexually improper thoughts would be aroused in those comprising a particular segment of the community, the young, the immature or the highly prudish, or would leave another segment, the scientific or highly educated or the so-call worldly wise and sophisticated, indifferent and unmoved. But such test shall be the effect of the book, picture or other subject to complaint considered as a whole, not upon any particular class, but upon all those whom it is likely to reach, that is, its impact upon the average person in the community. The book, picture or other subject of complaint must be judged as a whole in its entire context, not by considering detached or separate portions only, and by the standards of common conscience of the community of the contemporary period of the violation charged.

Seduction: MCL 750.532 Any man who shall seduce and debauch any unmarried woman shall be guilty of a felony

Penal Code

Communist Control Law - Public Act 117 of 1952 - Repealed

Why has this law been repealed? Are communists now good for our country? At one time, this "fifth column" was actively expelled from government positions and influence. Today, we elect leaders that prescribe to many of their ideologies. We may have waited too long to reverse course and protect our nation.

Repealed 1978 Michigan MCL 752.321 The legislature hereby finds and declares that there are present in the state of Michigan subversive groups and elements, particularly of the communist party and certain of its affiliated organizations, which have infiltrated into both private and public employment and into the public schools of the state. The consequence of any such infiltration in the public schools is that subversive propaganda can be disseminated among children of tender years by those who teach them and to whom the children look for guidance, authority and leadership...The legislature finds that such dissemination of propaganda may be and frequently is sufficiently subtle to escape detection in the classroom. It is difficult, therefore, to measure the menace of such infiltration in the schools by conduct in the classroom. The legislature further finds and declares that in order to protect the children and our state institutions from such subversive influence it is essential that the communist party and its affiliated organizations, from obtaining or retaining employment in the public schools or sate financed positions, be vigorously enforced. The legislature deplores the failure heretofore to prevent such infiltration which threatens dangerously to become a commonplace in our schools and institutions.
Not only have the communist/socialist ideologies become commonplace, but they have virtually taken over.

Judgment Day: May 21, 2011

The new day for the rapture is October 21. Anybody worried about this? I didn't think so.

After May 21

Harold Camping's first interview on May 23:
"October 21, the world will be destroyed."
"No more advertising."
"The world has been warned."
"The world is under judgment."
"We aren’t changing the date at all."
"It won’t be spiritual on October 21."
"It won’t be five months of difficulty."
"We had all the dates, we had all the proofs correct."
"God had not opened our eyes that May 21 was a spiritual coming."
"He now has the world under judgment. 
Before May 21
This is the same guy, Harold Camping, who has set dates for the end of the world before. Sad, but interesting. Someday, end time events will actually take place and nobody will pay attention because of people like this.

Family Radio (FR) Worldwide - Judgment Day: May 21, 2011

The end of the world is almost here!
Holy God will bring judgment day on
May 21, 2011
If you are one who believes that this day is approaching and the rapture or the return of Christ will take place, do not be discouraged on May 22. Nothing happened that should shake your faith. Have faith in the essentials which include things like the death and bodily resurrection of Christ. The End Times are interesting and these things (not the rapture) will definitely take place. But the timing is not for us to know. When May 22 comes, question your teacher, but do not question your faith.

Video from the Al Jazeera Network of all places:

Here is a screen shot and some files from the Pre-May 21 Harold Camping site.

Infallible Proof
Judgment Day May 21, 2011
Harold Camping's Goodbye Letter

Joel Osteen's Skewed Mission - Video

Joel Osteen says his mission is to help people forgive and to have "right thoughts". Those thousands of individuals that you see in the video need to know they they can be forgiven by the perfect and Holy God by the sacrifice of the Perfect and Holy Son, Jesus Christ. They need to understand that some of their thoughts that are not "right" are sinful and they need a savior. They need forgiveness while learning to forgive others.

If he was a motivational speaker, there would not be such a problem with his "mission". However, he purports to be a minister of the Word of God. Consequently, he should be held to a higher standard. We should be in prayer for him and those that follow him.

America's New Religion at the Church of Oprah

The folks at today's Oprah program were in rapture over all the new stuff America's Priestess of all things Spiritual (and material) was handing out.

Are there Different Paths to God?

There are multiple paths to the same God. This is the standard answer I get from others when discussing other religions. Consequently, the Hindu and the Mormon, the Muslim and the Spiritualist, they will all get there along with the Christian, but just on different paths.

But, let us not answer that question. Let’s answer a different question.

Are there different paths that Christians take to God? Does the Christian God allow various Christians to “find” Him in different ways? Some believe that we find God in various ways. Others believe that God finds us in specific ways. However, how do the folks in sacred scripture come to believe?

God chose Israel as His people.

Jesus chose Paul on the road to Damascus where he was going to persecute the church and kill Christians.

Jesus chose each one of his disciples. Judas, the son of perdition, was even chosen to betray Him.

God chose David to be king of Israel.

If God did indeed choose these individuals to Himself, how then do the rest of us come to God? If we choose God and the individuals such as Paul were chosen by God, then there must be at least two different ways to come to God: 1) God chooses some, and 2) others choose God.

If it is both, then God is inconsistent in the “paths” to God. If we choose God, then one must ask what good is there in us prior to our conversion that chooses God? Considering this is the greatest choice, or the greatest good, anyone can do in this life, where does this good come from considering we are dead in our sins, sinful since birth? The only clear answer is that God chooses us even while were were sinners. He transforms our will that was formally at enmity against Him and makes us born again, new creatures in Christ, who can now choose to do good. Our wills are changed so much, we can even believe that we did the choosing in the first place. The only response to this is unhindered praise and thanks to God through Christ Jesus who, due to nothing found in ourselves, chose us to be with Him. Praise God it was not left up to us!

General Motors IPO and Industrial Smoothing

Our economy is in the poor position that it is in because our imports are more than our exports. See my post about our trade deficit with China here. Also see my other postings on the Economy. There you will see that the solution to our economic problems is to "make more stuff" and stop importing from our enemies. Pretty simple, but obviously hard to do for some.

A couple of years ago, I bought $2,000 worth of "old" GM stock. It was around $5/share, a pretty good buy at the time since "GM could never go bankrupt". Well, that was then. Now I have about $200 worth of Motors Liquidation Company, the government and the union own GM, and the "new" GM is issuing their new stock. I think I will take a pass.

Here's a good video as a supplement to my post regarding QE2 (printing more money). Looks like we are our own worst enemy when it comes to doing what is best for our country.

Islam Will Dominate-VIDEO

This video shows how Islam will shortly be the dominate people group in the Western world. Very interesting. It is difficult to see how it can be reversed. Even if the numbers are not completely accurate (they may be), personal observation indicates a marked increase of the Islamic culture in Western countries.

Payments by Mobile Phone and Revelation 13:16

In 1995, I wrote about how the growing use of debit cards and credit cards were setting the infrastructure in place for the "mark of the beast" as found in Revelation 13:16. While many believe what the bible says is true, many do not take too seriously the predictions that some have had since most have been inaccurate and many downright hokey. I have tried to take a more reasoned view of events. Consequently, not every headline is filled with signs of the end times. However, one must carefully view technological progress from an objective point of view. Because we are familiar with technology does not make it off limits to scrutiny. 

One of the primary hurdles of implementing such a "mark" is the person-to-person transactions that will be required. We have been able to make electronic purchases from retail outlets for years. However, we have not been able to transfer funds from one person to another easily. This cell phone news is big in this regard. Many if not most have cell phones. It is only one small step from using them at a retail store to using them between individuals.

Wall Street Journal - AT&T, Verizon Unveil Mobile Payment Venture

Three major U.S. wireless carriers announced a joint venture to allow their customers to pay for goods and services with their cellphones.

Verizon Wireless, AT&T Inc. and T-Mobile USA are participating in the venture, dubbed Isis, which will compete with credit card companies. It will use near-field communications technology that allows a person to wave their phone in front of a scanner to pay for purchases.

NFC is already found in cards, and can be accepted at drugstore chains and gas stations. NFC chips transmit signals short distances and are considered to be a key emerging technology that will enable consumers to use their phones to make payments at brick-and mortar locations.

Quoted in part. November 16, 2010

Mathew 16:3b Hypocrites! You know how to discern the face of the sky, but you cannot discern the signs of the times.

Glenn Beck on George Soros, The Puppet Master-Video

In this video, Glenn Beck summarized three nights of reviewing the actions and motives of George Soros whom Beck calls the "Puppet Master". Beck gives compelling evidence of Soros' hand in felling four governments from around the world include crashing the English Sterling.

Next on Soros' list, according to Beck, is the United States. If it is not Soros, the evidence points to at least someone or some group attempting to reduce the influence and power of the United States. Take a look and judge for yourself. The video is 18 minutes, but it is very interesting.

Sunday Liquor Sales

In the State of Michigan, our legislature recently passed a new law making it legal to sell liquor in the early morning on Sundays - for a price. Formerly, it was illegal to sell liquor on Sunday between 2am and 12 noon. In a deal with the Devil, Michigan will now allow those vendors who pay a fee to make these sales. This marks the ending of what formally was a Christian society. Most “Blue Laws, laws prohibiting business activity on Sunday, have already been stricken from the books in order to obtain more profits for business allowing us all to have more fun on what was formally considered by most to be the Lord’s Day.

Now, thanks to our new “values”, we are able to shop and drink and have all sorts of fun distracting ourselves with the flashy lovers of our time instead of being in church worshiping our Lord and Creator. When will it end? I do not know. Unfortunately I know how it will end.

FDR's Four Freedoms - Iran's New World Order

At a recent high school football game, the half-time show centered around President Roosevelt's "Four Freedoms" speech. Norman Rockwell painted corresponding pictures that appeared in the Saturday Evening post. Not until the fourth freedom was displayed was one's attention particularly drawn to the field. Here is the fourth:

"The fourth is freedom from fear—which, translated into world terms, means a world-wide reduction of armaments to such a point and in such a thorough fashion that no nation will be in a position to commit an act of physical aggression against any neighbor—anywhere in the world."

This speech was given on January 6, 1941. Unfortunately, Europe had been living according to this fourth freedom since the end of World War I - with one exception - Nazi Germany.

Today, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, "We need a new order, wherein all nations and governments can equally play a role in world management." His new world order would not be new, but would be the world order of Islam which almost overran Europe and Western civilization a few hundred years ago if not for the strength of the Christian Byzantine Empire.

All nations are not equal. There will always be differences. There is evil in the world and those nations that strive to be better, while sometimes failing, must continue to be strong in the face of evil. FDR said that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself. No, one thing we have to fear is his "fourth freedom".

Solution to our economy: Make things!

The United States' continued importation of more than it exports thereby increasing the trade deficit and the National Debt is equivalent to a foreign country invading our land and stripping us of our possessions. In some ways, it is worse. It is worse because we are doing it to ourselves. We have within our power to stop and reverse the slow decline and eventual economic collapse of our country. A country that declines economically will eventually decline militarily. The sad part about this is that we are sending our money to our enemy, China - just because we want cheap shoes.

Great VIDEO of what we were and what we can be again:

Donald Trump says it best here.

Trump on China and the Trade Deficit - Great Video!

I am not particularly a Donald Trump fan. I can take him or leave him. However, this is simply the best narrative on what is so wrong with the foreign trade policy of the United States.

Do not miss this video. Its short and its good!

If you are reading this outside of my website, you may need to go there to see the video. Sorry.

Monetizing Debt - QE2 - Quantitative Easing - Industrial Smoothing

So I received a breaking news alert from CNN today. Apparently, the Obama administration is going issue another $600,000,000.00 stimulus to kick-start our economy. This time, the Federal Reserve is going to buy our bonds. Another words, one "part" of our government (if you can call the Federal Reserve that - really a consortium of banks) is going to buy the debt of the other part of our government. This last ditch effort to stimulate our economy continues to put us on the road to where Greece is today or where Germany was before WWII.

VIDEO from about a year ago, but it is related:

Oh. I thought I would throw Industrial Smoothing into the title just because it seemed to go along with the other wacky things going on. George Costanza would be proud.